Tina Anderson | The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Show EPISODE (#307)

Michael Bosstick: Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur.

Lauryn Evarts: A very smart cookie. And now, Lauryn Evarts and Michael Bosstick are bringing you along for the ride. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential, Him & Her.

Tina Anderson: Well, I see a lot of people that don't know that they're not taking care of their guts. See, what's so sad about this is that we are living in this very antimicrobial world. We are more bacteria, like I said, than we are human. Yet we live in this world that is so antimicrobial. You know, just for example, the hand sanitizers is one very relevant example right now. The hand sanitizers are killing our bacteria. I would never use a hand sanitizer. I will admit, in March, when this all came out, I did start, I'm like, oh, maybe this is really bad. Maybe I should, you know, start using it. But I would never have used the hand sanitizer before because we know that it's killing the microbes on our body, which we need.

Lauryn Evarts: Welcome back to the Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast. Happy Friday. Today we got a fun episode. It's all about the gut. That clip was from our guest of the show today, Tina Anderson. She is the co-founder of Just Thrive Health. She created a probiotic. This probiotic is a serious, real deal probiotic. It's been through all the tests, all the things. We're going to get into it in this episode about the importance of gut health to overall health. I had so many questions because I've been on antibiotics so many times for tons of different stuff when it came to jaw surgery or my boob implants. This was really interesting to hear about how the imbalance of a gut can lead to a lot of diseases and illnesses. And one of the most interesting things she said on the show that I've never thought about is that we're more bacteria than human, which is something that a lot of people think about myself included. And once you hear someone like Tina with the knowledge base that she has start explaining what's going on in the gut, how it's connected to our immune system, our overall health, how it speaks to our brain, how it really determines a lot of the health conditions that all of us are under, you really start to think like, oh, maybe I should take it a little bit more seriously and take a probiotic. How I get my probiotics in is I, and we talk about it in this episode, I eat a lot of kimchi. I take inulin, which is a prebiotic fiber, and I take a probiotic every single day. I think that I need to focus on, though, personally eating more foods that I know have probiotics in them and being very diligent about the probiotic because sometimes I forget about it and I'm realizing after this episode how important it actually is.

Michael Bosstick: Well, this is just like anything else that we've learned on this show when it comes to taking care of your skin or your health or your body. It's like, you know, taking a probiotic is easy, and if it helps improve your gut health, which improves everything else, then why wouldn't you? It's so wild in this episode, too, what she says about the baby. You hear about how important probiotics are to a baby, too. So that's really interesting. We go all over the place. You're going to hear all the benefits. We're going to get really, really into gut health for this episode. So grab your composition notebook. Who is Tina Anderson? Tina Anderson is a probiotic expert and the co-founder and CEO of Just Thrive Health. It's a supplement company based in Chicago, Illinois, that focuses on the critical importance of gut health. Just Thrive products can be found in over a thousand retail locations and online justthrivehealth.com. We even have an offer for you. Go to justthrivehealth.com/skinny. You can stock their probiotics. But first, let's meet the wildly successful Tina Anderson. This is The Skinny Confidential Him & Her.

Lauryn Evarts: Let's just ask the question that I feel like everyone in 2020 needs to know. Why is it so important to take care of your gut?

Tina Anderson: That is an excellent question, Lauryn. It's so important to take care of your gut is because we are 10 times more bacterial cells than we are human. The Human Microbiome Project was launched about 2009 or so, told us more about the gut than we ever knew before. We basically have found out that everything is dictated by the health of our gut. So it's almost hard to find any disease state that is not affected by the health of our microbiome, which the microbiome is the totality of all the microorganisms that are on and in us, most of them being in our gut. There is so much going on. There's 50,000 studies that just came out on gut health over the past year. And we're just tipping, we're at the tip of the iceberg right now. We've got so much more information out there that's coming out on gut health.

Lauryn Evarts: Do you see a lot of people that don't take care of their gut? Because one of them is sitting to my left and the other one's behind the producer wall.

Tina Anderson: Well, I see a lot of people that don't know that they're not taking care of their gut. See, what's so sad about this is that we are living in this very antimicrobial world. We are more bacteria, like I said, than we are human, yet we live in this world that is so antimicrobial. You know, just for example, the hand sanitizers is one very relevant example right now. The hand sanitizers are killing our bacteria. I would never use a hand sanitizer. I will admit in March when this all came out, I did start, I'm like, oh, maybe this is really bad. Maybe I should, you know, start using it. But I would never have used hand sanitizer before because we know that it's killing the microbes on our body, which we need. For example, households that there's a study that came out that show that households that have, that use cleaning products that say kills 99.99% of bacteria actually have children with a higher incidence of asthma, allergies, autism, those types of, you know, things going on. So we, we want to be clean, but not by using soap and water, you know, by using water with some essential oils, but we don't want, we really, we're living in a really antimicrobial world.

Michael Bosstick: And why is that? It's because these things kill our bacteria that are good bacteria that we need or what is it?

Tina Anderson: Exactly, they're killing our good bacteria. And it's not just those types of things that are killing our bacteria. I mean, really, one of the biggest offenders are antibiotics that are found, you know, that we just take antibiotics, but then antibiotics in our food supply too. In the meat products, you're going to find antibiotics. That's why I'm such a proponent of trying to eat clean. They say even a single course of amoxicillin can wreak havoc on your gut for over a year period of time. And of course, I'm not suggesting that you don't take an antibiotic if it's saving your life or, you know, antibiotics save lives, but CDC came up with a study that showed that 50% of antibiotics were prescribed and weren't really necessary. And a lot of it is doctors get pressure. They get pressure from patients like, I'm going out of town, give me an antibiotic. And that actually makes the problem worse because antibiotics kill the bad bacteria, which we want it to, but it's also killing the good bacteria. We don't want it to. And yet our immune system is in our gut. And so you're trying to fight a viral infection and now you've got an antibiotic that's actually ruining your body's chance of fighting that infection.

Michael Bosstick: I actually have two stories about antibiotics that maybe would benefit the audience that I think are important to talk about. And the first one is, is that I got dermatitis all over my face from the mask. I found out that it was being caused by cotton masks and that whenever I wear a mask, it needs to be a disposable one. So I kept getting on doxycycline over and over. I did three rounds of it. And what would happen is it would go away right away when I took the doxycycline. Always would do a probiotic, do Just Thrive Probiotic with the antibiotic, which was great. But then after I was done with the course of antibiotics, it would come back. And I was like, there's something, this is weird. And it's probably had to do with my gut. So finally, I found Keflex toner and that took away the dermatitis. And what it was was it was an antibiotic toner. So I guess my question for you is, is that affecting my gut in the same way as a pill would?

Tina Anderson: Yeah, yeah, because your skin is the biggest organ that you have. So it was still sinking into my gut, still sinking into your gut.

Lauryn Evarts: So I still took the probiotic and that definitely helped. It's gone now. But I honestly think that doing the toner for me was better than the actual pill. It worked better. So if anyone's struggling with dermatitis, the other thing I noticed is that I kept getting UTIs. But then I started using a coconut oil lube. Well, I haven't gotten one since. Is that because it was offsetting? What was happening there?

Tina Anderson: Well, yeah, that's exactly what's going on. So that's what's so crazy about your gut health is it's hard to find any type of condition that's a non-communicable disease that doesn't have to do with an imbalance in your gut. Even a UTI. I mean, especially a UTI because so much of your vaginal microbiome is dictated by your regular microbiomes or your gut microbiome. So absolutely. And we see this people who are on for acne, they're on the antibiotics for years. And I mean, time and time again, when we first started, I talked to customers who would say, oh my gosh, you know, I have all sort of colitis. I have Crohn's. I have SIBO. I have all these different types of conditions. And I was on antibiotics as a kid for acne for so many years. So when people are on antibiotics for long periods of times, it really does disrupt the gut microbiome. So we just have to be really mindful of that.

Michael Bosstick: Don't you think whenever someone's on an antibiotic, they should offset it with a probiotic?

Tina Anderson: Absolutely. And the problem is most probiotics, though, don't survive the presence of an antibiotic. So just like the good bacteria and the bad bacteria will get killed, I mean, it's good to do it. It's still going to support it. Now, the strains that are in Just Thrive actually have been studied to actually survive the presence of an antibiotic, which is, I don't know of any other probiotic that's actually been shown that. It's a very different category. I mean, we could get into that later, but I definitely think that you should be on a probiotic if you're on antibiotics. Absolutely.

Lauryn Evarts: So talk to us about Just Thrive, your probiotic, because I know it's one of a kind. And how did you get yourself into this? I'm sure that's an interesting story.

Tina Anderson: Yeah, I have kind of an interesting story. I started out my career as an attorney and I was in litigation for many years. And then my husband was in the pharmaceutical industry and we were so proud. And then I decided to stay home with the kids a little bit more, have more time at home. And I left the high stress, crazy hours at the law firm. And I went into the family pharmaceutical business. And I thought it was great because I'm like, oh, my gosh, we're helping people feel better and bringing life-saving drugs to people. But after many years in the industry, we really started to see a lot of the abuses going on. We started to see the overprescribing of drugs. We saw that with family members who would start on one and the next thing you know, they're on 12 and really not any better. And I read a lot of Wayne Dyer, Norman Vincent Peel, so does my husband. We're very deep thinkers and we kept saying like we are not doing our life's work. This is not feeding our soul. The straw that broke the camel's back was when we had a pharmaceutical rep come into our office. We were distributors and they came into our office and said, oh my God, we just won this huge bid. Now my job is to go to every doctor at this big hospital system that we won the bid at and tell them that they need to lower the number that they prescribe this medication. And so it's like basically they're prescribing a medication when they don't really need it. And we just, we're like, you know what, this is it. And so we started researching and doing a lot of different things in the health and wellness space, learning about different, you know, we had all different kinds of ideas and my husband's chiropractor came up, talked to us about how he had the opportunity to get these rights to these strains from London University out of Dr. Simon Cutting, who's like world renowned probiotic expert out of London University. And so from there we just did it. We were like, let's do this, let's put our life savings into it. We launched Just Thrive Probiotic from there.

Lauryn Evarts: And why is it so different than any other probiotic?

Tina Anderson: It's so different because the majority of probiotics on the market are made up of lactobacillus and bifidobacter strains. Those are not the strains that we use. We use a totally different category. In a broad sense, I'll call them spore-based probiotics. So they're made up of bacillus spore-based probiotics. And the biggest difference between spores, and they're not like mushroom spores, they're spores, meaning they have an endospore shell around themselves. And that shell provides protection for them to get to the intestines alive. Most probiotics, 98% of them die before they ever get to the intestines. Does it mean they don't do anything? No, even dead bacteria will do something. But these spore-based probiotics actually have the ability to naturally survive the gastric system, get to the intestines alive where they go to work and they read the microbial environment. So it's a very, very different approach to probiotic. And it's an entirely different category of probiotics.

Michael Bosstick: So are most probiotics actually not getting to our gut?

Tina Anderson: Yeah, most probiotics arrive dead. They're dead on arrival.

Lauryn Evarts: So we're just taking dead shit?

Tina Anderson: Yeah. And they're alive. And that's one of the biggest myths out there is that a probiotic needs to be alive. And it is true they need to be alive, not in the refrigerator, at the grocery store. They need to be alive in your intestines. And most probiotics are not making it to that journey, making the journey to the intestines 100% alive.

Lauryn Evarts: So they're just not getting where they need to go? Or like most of it's not getting where it needs to go?

Tina Anderson: Right. And again, I'm not saying that dead bacteria will do something. They may give you some symptomatic relief because people will say, but I've taken a probiotic and I've kind of felt something. And you might find some symptomatic relief, but it's not getting to the root cause of the issue. It's not reconditioning the gut. It's not, you know, the best way to explain the difference really is if you envision a garden and a garden, it's been stepped on and trampled on and there's weeds growing all over the garden. And kind of compare that to your gut. You've got good bacteria and bad bacteria. The other probiotics on the market, the majority of the conventional probiotics on the market, you throw those seeds in there. Most of those seeds never get to the garden. But even if they did, they would maybe plant a new plant in there, but they're not doing anything with the weeds in the garden. They're not doing anything with the plants in the garden. The spores in Just Thrive actually go into that garden. They get there 100% alive. They have the ability to attach to the soil, and then they have the ability to bring the plants that have been stepped on, trampled on back to life, and then get rid of the weeds in the garden. So it's really like making your garden of bacteria and your gut so lush and beautiful.

Lauryn Evarts: How come every single time I take an antibiotic without a probiotic, I get a yeast infection?

Tina Anderson: Well, because you're not doing anything to support the gut flora, because when you're taking the antibiotic, it's killing the good bacteria and the bad bacteria. And so we really want to make sure that you're supporting and fixing that damage that's going on. The antibiotic is causing damage, and we want to make sure that we're fixing that damage by using a probiotic.

Michael Bosstick: So what else, say someone like me who's not as educated as you and Lauryn on this subject, what are the most common symptoms that people are facing by not taking probiotics or by not managing their gut health? Because I think, you know, I don't want to say I have a bad diet. I think I lean more on the healthy side, but I do, I'm not nearly as healthy as Lauryn and probably you. Like what are the complications that can arise by not thinking about gut health in a probiotic?

Tina Anderson: So the first thing that everyone thinks about gut health is digestive issues. So we have gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, all those things. But what people aren't really thinking of a lot, well, then of course, most important is your immune health. I mean, your immune system, 70 to 80% of your immune system, like I mentioned, is found in your gut lining. So our immune system is really dictated by the health of our microbiome. That's why people who have autoimmune issues, they almost for sure have a leaky gut, and we could talk about that later. But basically, so we've got digestive issues, immune issues, but then skin health. People aren't thinking they have eczema or they have psoriasis or they have acne. Those are all stemming from an imbalance in your microbiome. Even things like mood, mood is a huge one. Anxiety, depression, those types of matters are all stemmed from an imbalance in your gut. There's a lot of communication going on between the gut and the brain. There's something called the vagus nerve. It connects the gut and the brain, and they're always sending messages back and forth to each other. 90% of our serotonin is produced in our gut. Of course, that's the happy hormone. Dopamine is produced in our gut. GABA, all these really important neurotransmitters that help regulate our mood are produced in the gut. And then things like weight management, people don't think about that. Even the type of bacteria you have in your gut will dictate how you metabolize food. So if you have more bacteroides type of bacteria in your gut, then you're one of those people that could look at it or eat a cupcake and not gain any weight. And then if you have more firmicutes in your gut, you're one of those people that has, you know, looks at the cupcake and gains 10 pounds. So it's really interesting how the balance of the gut really dictates every aspect of your overall health.

Lauryn Evarts: I am making my husband and Taylor take one of these and me on air because Michael is dealing with some stress right now. How many should he take, two?

Tina Anderson: Why do you think?

Michael Bosstick: Here's my problem with this year is that there's obviously, there's a lot going on this year with this pandemic. And one of my biggest problems is like, there's very little focus on anybody, you know, at a high government level talking about boosting immunity, right? Like there, it's all about how to avoid, how to hide. Nobody's talking about, hey, like, get your gut health in order, you know, get some vitamin D, like boost your immune system. And obviously this would be very helpful for people to know about. Cause like even now, you know, we've been talking a lot about vitamin D on this show, but we haven't, we touch very little on the importance of gut health and immunity. And I think like, if it's as simple as, I don't want to say it's as simple, but if you could start adding probiotics and boosting your immunity and having a better chance of fighting off disease or sicknesses, like that's obviously something everybody would, would be interested in doing.

Tina Anderson: Right. No, absolutely. You're preaching to the choir here, Michael, because I am so adamant about that. I'm like, where is anybody standing up and telling us, let's take care of our immune system right now. Let's, you know, support our immune system. Let's talk about gut health. Let's even vitamin D. No, I mean, there's so many amazing studies about vitamin D and supporting our immune system. And nobody is talking about it. I made the mistake of listening to the news. I had, there was a doctor on the news and they, somebody had asked him, well, what about all these studies with vitamin D? And he said, oh yeah, there's really amazing studies. The newscaster says, well, so should people start taking vitamin D? He said, oh no, and I thought, what do you mean, oh no? I mean, of course you should be measuring your vitamin D levels. It could be toxic, but it's so unlikely. And you know, you need to, you could measure, people could measure, but for sure, people should be taking vitamin D. For sure, people should be supporting their gut. Again, I can't emphasize that enough. 70 to 80% of your immune tissue is found in your gut lining. I mean, we need to be taking care of our gut. Even if we're taking vitamin D, in order to absorb the vitamin D, if you have inflammation going on in your gut, and I mean, most people do, unfortunately. Most people do. The world we live in, I mean, the chemicals, stress, fear. I mean, the fear that has been instilled in our population is the worst thing we could be doing for our immune system.

Michael Bosstick: Oh yeah. I mean, I feel like when you have stress and anxiety and fear, you're killing all of your systems, right? Like they're shutting down and you're even more susceptible to disease and sickness.

Tina Anderson: Absolutely. I mean, that's probably the hardest part is when I hear everybody in the fear, I'm like, I just want to say, you know, our bodies are beautifully designed to heal. I mean, we are beautifully designed to heal ourselves and we just need to keep ourselves resilient. That's the biggest thing is keeping ourselves resilient by focusing our immune system. Instead, it's like everyone's joking about, everyone's drinking alcohol and eating sugar and these are the worst things we could be doing.

Michael Bosstick: Hiding indoors, not getting light, not getting exercise, not eating healthy. Yeah, I mean, you wonder like, if you could concoct a perfect formula this year to make people sicker, it's like put them indoors, have them stop exercising, don't talk about how to be healthy, have them try to avoid things, be stressed, be fearful. To me, that sounds like a perfect formula to get people in a very sick place, not only in the body, but in the mind.

Tina Anderson: Absolutely, and that's one of the reasons we got into what we're doing right now, is because the conventional medical method is, like a cardiologist looks at the heart. I mean, a dermatologist looks at the skin, but they aren't necessarily looking at the whole body and that's why, of course, I'm very into the more functional, holistic, integrative type of medicine because we want to look at the whole body. And I feel like the same thing has happened with the times that we're living in right now. We're looking in tunnel vision at this one virus when really we should be looking at our whole body and our whole immune system and how we could help prepare our bodies to be resilient. This isn't the last coronavirus that's gonna come our way or the last that we need to be doing this for the future.

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Michael Bosstick: So I eat a lot of kimchi. I eat inulin in my coffee every day. What are some natural ways that you can support the gut? What are some foods that you reach for?

Tina Anderson: A lot of times what I do is I don't reach for certain things that I think are so offensive. So, you know, sugar, alcohol.

Lauryn Evarts: Talk about specifics.

Tina Anderson: Yeah, definitely sugar and alcohol. But I do reach for sugar and alcohol. But I mean, those are things I try to avoid. And, you know, of course, I drink dry farm and I do different things that are cleaner types of wines. But there are like, there's fermented foods, which fermented foods are really, really good. They just don't replace a probiotic. The strains, just to kind of back up, the strains that these spores are actually found in the environment. They were found years ago in the environment. Unfortunately, they're no longer in our soil anymore. You're not going to find them, you know, in the populated areas that we live in. And if you went to a tribe in Tanzania, you would find these strains. So you can't really find a food source of the spore-based probiotics. You can find probiotics-rich foods in fermented foods, but the problem is they are live bacteria when you swallow them. And so the gut or the stomach acid will kill them too by the time they get to the intestines. They will give you a lot. I mean, I'm a huge fan of fermented foods and I think everybody should eat them because they are so nutrient-dense. You get so many nutrients from them. They will give some gut health support, but they're not replacing a probiotic.

Michael Bosstick: Okay, so there's nothing that you really go for, like kombucha, what do you think of all that?

Tina Anderson: Yeah, no, I think it's all really good. I do think it's really good. I think it's great support of your gut, but it's not gonna actually go into that garden and get rid of the weeds and help the probiotic strains come back to life.

Lauryn Evarts: Do you think every single person on the entire planet should be taking a probiotic?

Tina Anderson: I do, I think it's where you start with gut health. It's ground zero for health. I mean, I think everybody that wakes up breathing should have a probiotic. I mean, even children, and we could go into that, but just another quick thing I wanted to mention is intermittent fasting is also really, really helpful for your gut health because it's helping create diversity in the gut, which is what we want. We want a diverse group of bacteria in our gut. And so when you intermittent fast, you actually have, it gives your body the opportunity to create more of these keystone strains that are really important in your gut. So I think intermittent fasting is a great tool, even like meditation and mindfulness. I know it sounds woo woo, but it's serious. I mean, when I talked about that gut brain connection, it's real. I mean, it's really, there's the vagus nerve is talking back and forth to each other all the time. So mindful practice, intermittent fasting, eating a diverse group of foods, I think is really good for the gut health. So going to like ethnic grocery stores, you could go to like a Chinese grocery store in India, a Middle Eastern grocery store and get different types of foods, different types of root vegetables or different types of vegetables. So you're getting different kinds of foods. See, we have to remember, we eat like 15 or 16, on average, the average American eats like the same 16 foods over a course of a year, where our ancestors used to eat 600 different types of foods over a course of a year. Diversity in your food choices is helpful.

Michael Bosstick: What is, like, it's maybe an ignorant question, but like, is what are the downsides to taking a probiotic, if there are any?

Tina Anderson: Well, you know, if when you're talking about the spore-based probiotics, there is no downside, because we have to remember our ancestors got these every day from our environment. They were just what we were eating on a regular basis. And they, every single living species has a binding site for these strains. So it's not like it wouldn't work for you, but it works for me. It's going to do something different in your body than it's going to do in my body. So there wouldn't be any downside at all. I mean, sometimes when people start on a probiotic, they may have so much dysbiosis, so much imbalance going on in the gut that they actually start having something called die-off where they were killing off the pathogenic bacteria and they may have some discomfort. And when that happens, we just say, first of all, great, you know it's working, but just go slower. Just go with a half a capsule a day or one capsule every other day until you could titrate up to a full capsule. But that would be the only downside is that maybe initially you might have some gastrointestinal discomfort.

Michael Bosstick: Yeah, I mean, the reason I ask is because like, when we started learning more about vitamin D, like, you know, telling our whole family parents take this and like, because we haven't really found the downside, like maybe you can take too much, but just getting you to take something is important. So that's why I ask is like, if we were to go and get Just Thrive for our entire family, like there's no downside for them to do it.

Tina Anderson: Not at all, no. There's no nothing like that.

Lauryn Evarts: What about babies and kids?

Tina Anderson: Yeah, I'm especially passionate about that topic because babies and kids are being born into this very sterile world and a very antimicrobial world, like I mentioned, more so than we were, or I was. I'm much older than you guys. I remember as a kid, there was one kid through K through 12 that had an allergy. I knew one person. And now they have these peanut-free tables. So many kids have allergies right now. And so I'm very passionate about that. And allergies are a sign of gut dysbiosis.

Lauryn Evarts: We just had our pediatrician on the show and he was basically saying that we have created allergies for these kids.

Tina Anderson: Yep, absolutely. And the world we live in, because we're creating this dysbiosis in our gut. So kids should definitely be taking probiotics. We actually have a Just Thrive Kids Probiotic, and it’s great because it’s tasteless, so you can mix it in with anything. I put it in my kids' smoothies or even just water, and they don't even know they're taking it. It’s so important to start them off early because, like you mentioned, the gut health issues are starting from such a young age now.

Michael Bosstick: I want to talk about Candida because that's something that I have heard a lot about and I know a lot of people struggle with it. Can you explain what it is and why it's so problematic?

Tina Anderson: Sure. Candida is a type of yeast that naturally lives in our body in small amounts, but it can grow out of control. When that happens, it can cause a lot of problems like fatigue, digestive issues, brain fog, and more. A lot of it has to do with diet, sugar feeds Candida, so when people eat a lot of sugar, they’re creating an environment where Candida can thrive. Antibiotics also contribute because they kill off the good bacteria that keeps Candida in check. So balancing your gut with probiotics can be really helpful in managing Candida.

Lauryn Evarts: What are some signs that someone might have Candida overgrowth?

Tina Anderson: Some common signs include persistent fatigue, digestive issues like bloating and constipation, skin issues like eczema or psoriasis, brain fog, and cravings for sugar and carbs. If you have several of these symptoms, it’s worth looking into whether Candida might be a factor.

Michael Bosstick: And what about diet? Are there specific foods you recommend avoiding to keep Candida under control?

Tina Anderson: Definitely. Avoiding sugar is the biggest thing because it feeds Candida. Also, try to avoid refined carbs and alcohol. Eating a diet rich in vegetables, healthy fats, and lean proteins can help. Fermented foods can also be beneficial because they help to support a healthy balance of bacteria in the gut.

Lauryn Evarts: Thank you so much, Tina. This has been incredibly informative. Where can everyone find more about you and Just Thrive?

Tina Anderson: You can find us at justthrivehealth.com, and we’re also on Instagram at Just Thrive Health. We share a lot of information there about gut health and our products.

Lauryn Evarts: Amazing. Thank you so much for being here and sharing all this valuable information.

Tina Anderson: Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure.

Michael Bosstick: Thanks, Tina.

Tina Anderson: Thank you.